Comments on: Mindlessness Behind the Wheel http://isocrates.us/bike/2009/12/mindlessness-behind-the-wheel/ Getting Around on Two Wheels and Two Feet Fri, 30 Jul 2010 19:08:38 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0 By: Keri http://isocrates.us/bike/2009/12/mindlessness-behind-the-wheel/comment-page-1/#comment-5134 Keri Wed, 02 Dec 2009 02:28:36 +0000 http://isocrates.us/bike/?p=2037#comment-5134 When you're here, I'll show you a street that was recently streetscaped — good pedestrian infrastructure was put in. It still has 4 narrow lanes, which isn't ideal for peds, but great for cyclists. The bike advocates pushed hard for doorzone bike lanes. They would have turned it into a nightmare, like Edgewater. Thank goodness someone had the integrity to say no. There is an excellent parallel route for novices who are not comfortable on the 4-lane, DZBLs might have lured them from that (safer) route. Very important big-picture consideration... and the difference between considering real access and symbolic, award-oriented nonsense. When you’re here, I’ll show you a street that was recently streetscaped — good pedestrian infrastructure was put in. It still has 4 narrow lanes, which isn’t ideal for peds, but great for cyclists. The bike advocates pushed hard for doorzone bike lanes. They would have turned it into a nightmare, like Edgewater. Thank goodness someone had the integrity to say no. There is an excellent parallel route for novices who are not comfortable on the 4-lane, DZBLs might have lured them from that (safer) route. Very important big-picture consideration… and the difference between considering real access and symbolic, award-oriented nonsense.

]]> By: Andy Cline http://isocrates.us/bike/2009/12/mindlessness-behind-the-wheel/comment-page-1/#comment-5131 Andy Cline Tue, 01 Dec 2009 17:58:12 +0000 http://isocrates.us/bike/?p=2037#comment-5131 Keri... I'm making it my goal, as the STAR Team CS committee chair, not to allow our efforts to become symbolic BS. I have my work cut out for me :-) Looking forward to the video! Keri… I’m making it my goal, as the STAR Team CS committee chair, not to allow our efforts to become symbolic BS. I have my work cut out for me :-) Looking forward to the video!

]]> By: Keri http://isocrates.us/bike/2009/12/mindlessness-behind-the-wheel/comment-page-1/#comment-5130 Keri Tue, 01 Dec 2009 17:53:54 +0000 http://isocrates.us/bike/?p=2037#comment-5130 I really don't know how to make people care. It seems too many people don't have the integrity to be courteous and mindful when given power and anonymity. They are self-absorbed and there are no scruples to over-rule the mindlessness. BTW, my typo: It's "Edgewater" Drive. Although, Edgeater seems somewhat appropriate ;-) Wait til you see the video. It's infuriating, but so absurd you have to laugh. I had an office on Edgewater for 6 years, I walked along and across it regularly. I'm not kidding when I say that only twice in six years did motorists yield to me in the crosswalk. (Edgewater is heralded as a "Complete Street" because they did a road diet and gave us door zone bike lanes) Beware, Complete Street standards are low and subject to symbolic BS. I really don’t know how to make people care. It seems too many people don’t have the integrity to be courteous and mindful when given power and anonymity. They are self-absorbed and there are no scruples to over-rule the mindlessness.

BTW, my typo: It’s “Edgewater” Drive. Although, Edgeater seems somewhat appropriate ;-)

Wait til you see the video. It’s infuriating, but so absurd you have to laugh. I had an office on Edgewater for 6 years, I walked along and across it regularly. I’m not kidding when I say that only twice in six years did motorists yield to me in the crosswalk.

(Edgewater is heralded as a “Complete Street” because they did a road diet and gave us door zone bike lanes) Beware, Complete Street standards are low and subject to symbolic BS.

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