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	<title>Comments on: Important Ruling In Ohio</title>
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		<title>By: danc</title>
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		<dc:creator>danc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 23:37:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Andy asked: &quot;If you would stop in a car you should stop on a bicycle.&quot;

Yes, (both are vehicles?) the older cyclist telling the officer &quot;no&quot; was unwise but perfectly legal.  Irregardless of all the name calling, epitaphs, etc, the situation escalated out of control, getting tazed is not what either party wanted or expected from the moment the officer passed the cyclists.  The officer properly just wanted to warn them, which can possibly feel like harassment.   Like I said before, listen (carefully), take notes, ask for clarification if something is not clear.  Knowing your cyclist rights is important so you can answer clearly and write note the supervisor with a critique or kudos.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andy asked: &#8220;If you would stop in a car you should stop on a bicycle.&#8221;</p>
<p>Yes, (both are vehicles?) the older cyclist telling the officer &#8220;no&#8221; was unwise but perfectly legal.  Irregardless of all the name calling, epitaphs, etc, the situation escalated out of control, getting tazed is not what either party wanted or expected from the moment the officer passed the cyclists.  The officer properly just wanted to warn them, which can possibly feel like harassment.   Like I said before, listen (carefully), take notes, ask for clarification if something is not clear.  Knowing your cyclist rights is important so you can answer clearly and write note the supervisor with a critique or kudos.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy Cline</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy Cline</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Dec 2009 17:58:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nate... Again, there seem to be two issues here:

1. Do you stop when signaled by a police officer to do so?

My answer: Yes.

2. Do you talk to the police officer once pulled over?

My (non)answer: Hmmmm... I&#039;m not as sure of this as I was yesterday.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nate&#8230; Again, there seem to be two issues here:</p>
<p>1. Do you stop when signaled by a police officer to do so?</p>
<p>My answer: Yes.</p>
<p>2. Do you talk to the police officer once pulled over?</p>
<p>My (non)answer: Hmmmm&#8230; I&#8217;m not as sure of this as I was yesterday.</p>
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		<title>By: Nate Bassett</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nate Bassett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Dec 2009 17:45:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I appreciate everyone&#039;s desire for civility towards police officers, but as far as filing a complaint about behavior like that of the officer in this case, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1YvwTHKuQQ&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;good luck, I guess&lt;/a&gt;? The best course of action is to just know your rights, and get a lawyer when you need to deal with the police.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I appreciate everyone&#8217;s desire for civility towards police officers, but as far as filing a complaint about behavior like that of the officer in this case, <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1YvwTHKuQQ" rel="nofollow">good luck, I guess</a>? The best course of action is to just know your rights, and get a lawyer when you need to deal with the police.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy Cline</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy Cline</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Dec 2009 13:55:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>danc... Yes, a traffic issue. If you would stop in a car you should stop on a bicycle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>danc&#8230; Yes, a traffic issue. If you would stop in a car you should stop on a bicycle.</p>
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		<title>By: danc</title>
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		<dc:creator>danc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Dec 2009 11:55:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Folks this is a traffic issue, Mr. James Duane, Esq is criminal defense laywer. OK! Would you not stop in a car?

Yes, I would stop and talk with any law enforcement officer, learn how much they know cyclist rights, take notes and write note the supervisor with a critique or kudos!  Courtsey promotes safety! Who are you going to speak with if someone else harasses you?

Yes, the officer and PD are being &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.irontontribune.com/news/2009/sep/24/tasered-biker-sues-civil-rights-case/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;sued as civil right case&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Folks this is a traffic issue, Mr. James Duane, Esq is criminal defense laywer. OK! Would you not stop in a car?</p>
<p>Yes, I would stop and talk with any law enforcement officer, learn how much they know cyclist rights, take notes and write note the supervisor with a critique or kudos!  Courtsey promotes safety! Who are you going to speak with if someone else harasses you?</p>
<p>Yes, the officer and PD are being <a href="http://www.irontontribune.com/news/2009/sep/24/tasered-biker-sues-civil-rights-case/" rel="nofollow">sued as civil right case</a>.</p>
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