Comments on: Don’t Speed on the Trails http://isocrates.us/bike/2009/07/dont-speed-on-the-trails/ Getting Around on Two Wheels and Two Feet Tue, 22 May 2012 00:58:14 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Andy Cline http://isocrates.us/bike/2009/07/dont-speed-on-the-trails/comment-page-1/#comment-4020 Andy Cline Fri, 31 Jul 2009 22:30:41 +0000 http://isocrates.us/bike/?p=1616#comment-4020 Robert... Good story :-) Wow, 15 sounds awfully fast to me. I regularly cruise 15-18 these days on the street. But I'm a 10 mph guy on the trails. Robert… Good story :-)

Wow, 15 sounds awfully fast to me. I regularly cruise 15-18 these days on the street. But I’m a 10 mph guy on the trails.

]]> By: robert http://isocrates.us/bike/2009/07/dont-speed-on-the-trails/comment-page-1/#comment-4016 robert Fri, 31 Jul 2009 18:08:30 +0000 http://isocrates.us/bike/?p=1616#comment-4016 One problem is that a bicyclist going 15-20 mph on a trail may feel completely in control and probably is completely in control. However, a pedestrian may think that the bicyclists is out of control and going to fast. This can sometimes lead to needless arguments. A friend of mine was cruising down a hill going about 15 mph when a elderly pedestrian yelled, "slow down, you are going too fast!" My friend slammed on his brakes and walked back towards the elderly (and now not so confident) pedestrian and said, "you are absolutely correct and I apologize." : ) One problem is that a bicyclist going 15-20 mph on a trail may feel completely in control and probably is completely in control. However, a pedestrian may think that the bicyclists is out of control and going to fast. This can sometimes lead to needless arguments.

A friend of mine was cruising down a hill going about 15 mph when a elderly pedestrian yelled, “slow down, you are going too fast!” My friend slammed on his brakes and walked back towards the elderly (and now not so confident) pedestrian and said, “you are absolutely correct and I apologize.”

: )

]]> By: Andy Cline http://isocrates.us/bike/2009/07/dont-speed-on-the-trails/comment-page-1/#comment-4013 Andy Cline Fri, 31 Jul 2009 16:47:50 +0000 http://isocrates.us/bike/?p=1616#comment-4013 Robert... I agree re: subjectivity. But they might apply one of those "standards" that account for subjectivity, e.g. careless and imprudent. The larger problem is a general lack of consideration by far to many users of the trails, the roads ... just about everything :-( Ethan... Common sense works if its foundation is a general regard for the welfare of other trial/road users. Robert… I agree re: subjectivity. But they might apply one of those “standards” that account for subjectivity, e.g. careless and imprudent. The larger problem is a general lack of consideration by far to many users of the trails, the roads … just about everything :-(

Ethan… Common sense works if its foundation is a general regard for the welfare of other trial/road users.

]]> By: Ethan http://isocrates.us/bike/2009/07/dont-speed-on-the-trails/comment-page-1/#comment-4012 Ethan Fri, 31 Jul 2009 16:45:59 +0000 http://isocrates.us/bike/?p=1616#comment-4012 Robert beat me to it, as did part of the news report. The law isn't "Calvinball". If [you] want to ticket for speeding, post a speed limit. I think the root problem is reckless driving, which is indeed a universal complaint (roads or greenways). The other angle the cops could take is "failure to reduce speed to avoid an accident", which puts the onus on the cyclist regardless of pedestrian behavior. Shrug, either way I think posting something tangible as opposed to writing tickets on one person's say-so is the better solution, insofar as rules and regulations go. "Plain ole common sense" works too. :-) Robert beat me to it, as did part of the news report. The law isn’t “Calvinball”. If [you] want to ticket for speeding, post a speed limit. I think the root problem is reckless driving, which is indeed a universal complaint (roads or greenways).

The other angle the cops could take is “failure to reduce speed to avoid an accident”, which puts the onus on the cyclist regardless of pedestrian behavior.

Shrug, either way I think posting something tangible as opposed to writing tickets on one person’s say-so is the better solution, insofar as rules and regulations go. “Plain ole common sense” works too. :-)

]]> By: robert http://isocrates.us/bike/2009/07/dont-speed-on-the-trails/comment-page-1/#comment-4011 robert Fri, 31 Jul 2009 15:32:12 +0000 http://isocrates.us/bike/?p=1616#comment-4011 Also why we should fight like hell to maintain our rights to ride on the roadway where pedestrians, children, dogs and the like do not roam unpredictably. I'm really trying not to respond negatively without having all of the facts but based on this report it seems awful silly. Its totally subjective. If I was going 16 mph would I get a ticket of up to $1000.00? what if I was going 20 mph? What is the speed limit? Also why we should fight like hell to maintain our rights to ride on the roadway where pedestrians, children, dogs and the like do not roam unpredictably.

I’m really trying not to respond negatively without having all of the facts but based on this report it seems awful silly.

Its totally subjective. If I was going 16 mph would I get a ticket of up to $1000.00? what if I was going 20 mph? What is the speed limit?

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