Comments on: Drive Now, Talk Later http://isocrates.us/bike/2008/12/drive-now-talk-later/ Getting Around on Two Wheels and Two Feet Mon, 06 Sep 2010 16:13:40 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: Springfield Injury Law Blog http://isocrates.us/bike/2008/12/drive-now-talk-later/comment-page-1/#comment-1664 Springfield Injury Law Blog Mon, 22 Dec 2008 22:17:58 +0000 http://isocrates.us/bike/?p=652#comment-1664 <strong>Shut off teen texting in cars...</strong> Here is a Springfield News-Leader Editorial that makes a lot of sense. Call your Missouri state senator or representative. Especially if you ride a bicycle or motorcycle on Missouri roads. Missouri lawmakers should support a proposal banning new driver... Shut off teen texting in cars…

Here is a Springfield News-Leader Editorial that makes a lot of sense. Call your Missouri state senator or representative. Especially if you ride a bicycle or motorcycle on Missouri roads. Missouri lawmakers should support a proposal banning new driver…

]]> By: acline http://isocrates.us/bike/2008/12/drive-now-talk-later/comment-page-1/#comment-1413 acline Mon, 15 Dec 2008 14:45:03 +0000 http://isocrates.us/bike/?p=652#comment-1413 Keri... Agreed. On first read, however, I took that language to be more of an attempt not to upset the conservatives in the legislature considering that the other two bills don't have a ghost of chance of passing in Missouri. But, yes, I think it also demonstrates how pervasive the car-centuric culture is. Keri… Agreed. On first read, however, I took that language to be more of an attempt not to upset the conservatives in the legislature considering that the other two bills don’t have a ghost of chance of passing in Missouri. But, yes, I think it also demonstrates how pervasive the car-centuric culture is.

]]> By: Keri http://isocrates.us/bike/2008/12/drive-now-talk-later/comment-page-1/#comment-1386 Keri Mon, 15 Dec 2008 03:12:54 +0000 http://isocrates.us/bike/?p=652#comment-1386 <em>"...infringing on the rights of adults" Norr said...</em> Huh?!? Since when does anyone have a RIGHT to drive while talking on the phone? Americans don't have a RIGHT to drive at all. It is a privilege and it comes with responsibilities and conditions. Language like this is significant, it demonstrates how insidiously driving has gone from a privilege to an entitlement. If we treated driver's licenses half as seriously as private pilot licenses we would not have 40K+ deaths every year on the roads. “…infringing on the rights of adults” Norr said…

Huh?!?

Since when does anyone have a RIGHT to drive while talking on the phone? Americans don’t have a RIGHT to drive at all. It is a privilege and it comes with responsibilities and conditions.

Language like this is significant, it demonstrates how insidiously driving has gone from a privilege to an entitlement.

If we treated driver’s licenses half as seriously as private pilot licenses we would not have 40K+ deaths every year on the roads.

]]> By: Ken Chase http://isocrates.us/bike/2008/12/drive-now-talk-later/comment-page-1/#comment-1375 Ken Chase Sun, 14 Dec 2008 21:42:16 +0000 http://isocrates.us/bike/?p=652#comment-1375 Thats right, thats why i ride side streets only, even against 1 way traffic laws. I'd rather break the law and be alive than expose myself to drivers following laws made for cars. Those laws work pretty well for the cars - if someone makes a small mistake, car on car at <30km/h in the city isnt a big deal you wont get that hurt in a car. 30km/h car vs cyclist tho, dead cyclist. No amount of rational discussion with me will ever convince me that breaking traffic laws to keep myself alive around cars is 'immoral', either. :) Thats right, thats why i ride side streets only, even against 1 way traffic laws. I’d rather break the law and be alive than expose myself to drivers following laws made for cars.

Those laws work pretty well for the cars – if someone makes a small mistake, car on car at <30km/h in the city isnt a big deal you wont get that hurt in a car. 30km/h car vs cyclist tho, dead cyclist.

No amount of rational discussion with me will ever convince me that breaking traffic laws to keep myself alive around cars is ‘immoral’, either. :)

]]> By: Andy Cline http://isocrates.us/bike/2008/12/drive-now-talk-later/comment-page-1/#comment-1374 Andy Cline Sun, 14 Dec 2008 21:33:56 +0000 http://isocrates.us/bike/?p=652#comment-1374 David... And, perhaps, someday we can get there. But not if the price of gas keeps falling. Today in Springfield it's about $1.49 per gallon. We should be taxing it up to $4.00 in the short term and to European standards in the long term. That money could help pay to change our transportation paradigm. David… And, perhaps, someday we can get there. But not if the price of gas keeps falling. Today in Springfield it’s about $1.49 per gallon. We should be taxing it up to $4.00 in the short term and to European standards in the long term. That money could help pay to change our transportation paradigm.

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