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	<title>Comments on: Tipping Point</title>
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	<description>Getting Around on Two Wheels and Two Feet</description>
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		<title>By: the happy gentleman</title>
		<link>http://isocrates.us/bike/2008/11/tipping/comment-page-1/#comment-819</link>
		<dc:creator>the happy gentleman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 16:45:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow! That&#039;s my only response to that piece. Individual action? Public Transit without a walkable city? Wow! Seriously?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow! That&#8217;s my only response to that piece. Individual action? Public Transit without a walkable city? Wow! Seriously?</p>
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		<title>By: Andy Cline</title>
		<link>http://isocrates.us/bike/2008/11/tipping/comment-page-1/#comment-706</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy Cline</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 20:20:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>fpt... Nice blog. I&#039;m adding you to the blogroll. And thanks for you comment.

Tracy... Yes, I&#039;m also seeing more riders this year. And re: the bus Catch 22, I&#039;m thinking effective public transportation will have to run as a tax-supported service and not a business.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>fpt&#8230; Nice blog. I&#8217;m adding you to the blogroll. And thanks for you comment.</p>
<p>Tracy&#8230; Yes, I&#8217;m also seeing more riders this year. And re: the bus Catch 22, I&#8217;m thinking effective public transportation will have to run as a tax-supported service and not a business.</p>
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		<title>By: fpteditors</title>
		<link>http://isocrates.us/bike/2008/11/tipping/comment-page-1/#comment-694</link>
		<dc:creator>fpteditors</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 18:37:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A tipping point is when quantitative change becomes qualitative change. There will be a qualitative change when enough people realize that the auto and sprawl system exists only because it is heavily subsidized. Whereas since there are virtually no private operators left, in the U.S. public transit is not a subsidy, but an investment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A tipping point is when quantitative change becomes qualitative change. There will be a qualitative change when enough people realize that the auto and sprawl system exists only because it is heavily subsidized. Whereas since there are virtually no private operators left, in the U.S. public transit is not a subsidy, but an investment.</p>
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		<title>By: Tracy Wilkins</title>
		<link>http://isocrates.us/bike/2008/11/tipping/comment-page-1/#comment-693</link>
		<dc:creator>Tracy Wilkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 17:05:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was intrigued by Geoff&#039;s comments above so I went out and read his entire piece to get the context.  Knowing what I know about the background, what he says makes perfectly good sense to me.  Disclaimer....what follows is strictly my view and not those of City Utilities.

Conceptual ideas have been discussed at a high level for a couple of years now about forming some sort of regional transit authority to overhaul and operate the current bus system.  If that should ever occur, one of the facets of it would be bus routes from Springfield&#039;s bedroom communities into town, and then expanded routes in town to more efficiently distribute those riders to where they need to go.  The kicker is that funding is obviously going to be a major hurdle to be overcome, and I think I remember that there will need to be multiple elections to allow the restructure to occur.

Until that happens, CU will continue to run Springfield&#039;s transit system.  Unfortunately, there is a catch-22 that needs to be dealt with.  First, ridership and the going rates ($1.10 for an adult fare) don&#039;t even begin to cover existing operating expenses, let alone provide for any kind of an expansion of service.  Secondly, running the minimalistic routes that are in place now makes the service unattractive to prospective riders who have any other option at all to get around town.  Let&#039;s face it, a three hour trip across town is not something that most of us will tolerate.  

The point can be made that the transit service is basically being run as a public service for those individuals in Springfield who don&#039;t have any other option for getting to the places they need to be.

On a more positive note, I did see three other bike commuters besides myself this morning, so some of us are still riding even though winter is approaching and gas prices have gone down!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was intrigued by Geoff&#8217;s comments above so I went out and read his entire piece to get the context.  Knowing what I know about the background, what he says makes perfectly good sense to me.  Disclaimer&#8230;.what follows is strictly my view and not those of City Utilities.</p>
<p>Conceptual ideas have been discussed at a high level for a couple of years now about forming some sort of regional transit authority to overhaul and operate the current bus system.  If that should ever occur, one of the facets of it would be bus routes from Springfield&#8217;s bedroom communities into town, and then expanded routes in town to more efficiently distribute those riders to where they need to go.  The kicker is that funding is obviously going to be a major hurdle to be overcome, and I think I remember that there will need to be multiple elections to allow the restructure to occur.</p>
<p>Until that happens, CU will continue to run Springfield&#8217;s transit system.  Unfortunately, there is a catch-22 that needs to be dealt with.  First, ridership and the going rates ($1.10 for an adult fare) don&#8217;t even begin to cover existing operating expenses, let alone provide for any kind of an expansion of service.  Secondly, running the minimalistic routes that are in place now makes the service unattractive to prospective riders who have any other option at all to get around town.  Let&#8217;s face it, a three hour trip across town is not something that most of us will tolerate.  </p>
<p>The point can be made that the transit service is basically being run as a public service for those individuals in Springfield who don&#8217;t have any other option for getting to the places they need to be.</p>
<p>On a more positive note, I did see three other bike commuters besides myself this morning, so some of us are still riding even though winter is approaching and gas prices have gone down!</p>
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		<title>By: Keri</title>
		<link>http://isocrates.us/bike/2008/11/tipping/comment-page-1/#comment-676</link>
		<dc:creator>Keri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 05:06:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shek, it&#039;s not totally dead. The thought is it will get through next session. But the delay of a year was unwelcome. They still have to find a rail contractor, build stations, etc.

&lt;em&gt;Traffic&lt;/em&gt; is fascinating. When I started reading it, I had to put it right back down and run to the store for a highlighter.</description>
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<p><em>Traffic</em> is fascinating. When I started reading it, I had to put it right back down and run to the store for a highlighter.</p>
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